We sat down with Josh Kennerley, Case Management Systems Developer at Zeus, who has successfully risen from a grad-level developer to a full developer in just a few months. This is what we learned about his experience, how he through the ranks so quickly and what he thinks about working with Zeus…

How would you describe your job to someone who isn’t a tech expert?

Proclaim is the main software that law firms use to manage their cases and I develop that further to make the system bespoke for those firms. I aim to make the system less of a “stick and stone” approach to work and make it more automated, easier for the user, and get all the parts to follow a straight flow of events.

I help them make their tools work together better, rather than gathering all the Lego and throwing it in the box and hoping it all makes sense.

So how do you interact with clients? Are you in contact with them at all or are things passed down to you?

Yeah, I have my own clients myself, I have a few different law firms that I do jobs for.

We actually use Proclaim ourselves for our own organisation – so work will be allocated automatically through that based on the client or type of work needed. Then if there’s anything else the client needs or any questions, I have for them I’ll have contact with them. And then when it’s all finished off and ready to go out, I’ll meet with the client and show them what work I’ve done and go over anything else that they might want. So, I’m really in contact with the client at all times.

What have you found most interesting in your projects?

I’d say the most interesting part of the job is working internationally – I get to work with clients in Australia, clients in America as well as the UK so that to me is really interesting, getting to see how different countries operate in a law environment as opposed to just working with English firms all the time.

When I spoke to Ant Black about that he mentioned that when he worked with clients in Australia, he’d be getting up at 2 in the morning to start his day and finish at 11am. You don’t have to do any of that right? Are you on pretty standard work times?

[Laughs] Luckily, I don’t have to do any two in the morning jobs. Most of the time if I need to speak to someone in Australia, I can normally catch them at about 8 o’clock in the morning UK time. So the worst is about an hour earlier which is pretty cushy if you ask me!

Ant’s just a night-owl, what can I say?

So how long have you been working for Zeus now?

I started working for Zeus in November 2020.

So, in that time what would you say has been your biggest achievement to date?  

I’d say going from a graduate level developer to a full developer within about 5-6 months. To me that was incredible. Because I didn’t have any experience – I mean I’ve got my degrees, but I didn’t have any experience working in a software environment. So, to make that jump so quick was just incredible to me.

How were you able to do it so quickly?

I guess it was just a case of taking any tips the team would give me. Sometimes I might have to do a bit of research away from work just to refresh my memory and stuff, but if there was any time when anything was confusing I knew I could just ask the question to the more senior developers on the team.

There’s no stupid question with that team, they’re always so happy to help. And their help was one of the reasons that I was able to get there so quick.

So now you’ve progressed and made that move up to Case Management Systems Developer, what are your next goals? What do you hope to achieve in that role?

My goal is just to keep learning as much as I can. I would say I’ve only scratched the surface of what Zeus can offer me and teach me.

So, I just want to keep learning, keep building my portfolio of skills and become a better developer.

What advice would you give to anyone joining Zeus?

Just don’t be afraid to ask questions. It can be daunting at first, because you’re surrounded by all these people who’ve got so much knowledge, but they were all in your position at one point and they will all do backflips to help you and help you succeed.

If you could swap jobs with anyone in the world, who would it be?

To be honest I think I’d pick one of my clients that works out in Australia because I’ve seen some of the pictures of their office on LinkedIn and that is a really nice view, so I’d say one of those just for the view.

Or maybe something outdoors. Like an outdoor teacher. Not like a PE teacher, like one of those that’s like “Here’s nature, I’m going to teach you about this now”.

So finally, are there any words of wisdom that you’d like to share with the good people reading this interview?

I definitely think if you’re looking for a career in software development, whether you’re an experienced person or someone brand new, I definitely think you should look Zeus up. Because they are honestly one of the best companies I’ve worked for and it was a great way to get my foot into the development world.